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Gabe
11-01-2006, 09:29 AM
So you want to make your own ESF Clan huh? Ok here is what you will need:

1 A forum - You need forum to discuss clan wars, for the clan members to talk via the forum, to arrange training etc. THE FORUM IS A MUST

2 A Server - You would need your own rented/bought server so the players of the clan can meet and train there also for clan wars. This is very very very usefull and recommanded.

3 MSN, Yahoo, X Fire - This 3 are the most used messengers and its a must to have them all so you can keep contact with your clan mates.

4 Leadership Skill - For your clan to have succes the leader must have leadership skills. By that I mean he knows how to keep the clan toghether. Very important to have

5 Administrative Skill - You will need to have administrative skills to manage your clan correctly. Very important

6 Web Site - Additional to the forum you can also have your own website. Its optional.

7 Recruiting Promotion - You need to promote your clan so it gains member. This can be done through having your clan .gif icon to important sites affiliates like ESF World. Very important

8 Arranging Clan Wars - This is the most important part of a clan. To have clan matches. If you do not have clan matches people from the clan would eventually want to leave.


How to arrange a clan war:

There 2 ways to do it:

1 Go to another clan website and try to contact the leader there
2 Talk with another clan leaders through Instant Messaging


Good Luck


*Request to be Stickyed*

Grega
11-01-2006, 10:05 AM
*Request to be Stickyed*

Besides the obvious fact of everything you stated. Wrong section ^^

Xerimethius
11-01-2006, 12:22 PM
1-yes
2-no
3-no
4-only if you have a designated leader
5-not necessary, but nice to have
6-no
7-no; if your clan is any good, people will find you
8-rarely ever happens now, and yet clans survive

Request to be stickied denied.

Not that I have the power to deny your request, but most of what you said is untrue.

Hamppu
11-01-2006, 12:35 PM
irc is a must! :o own clan channel > all

Pain
11-01-2006, 01:38 PM
Moved to Clans.

Sub
11-01-2006, 02:56 PM
irc is a must! :o own clan channel > all

Every clan I've been in either hasn't had IRC or has it, but doesn't feel the need to use it. Ventrillo is nice though.

Gabe
11-01-2006, 06:31 PM
1-yes
2-no
3-no
4-only if you have a designated leader
5-not necessary, but nice to have
6-no
7-no; if your clan is any good, people will find you
8-rarely ever happens now, and yet clans survive

Request to be stickied denied.

Not that I have the power to deny your request, but most of what you said is untrue.

2 Most clans without server die very soon. Very little are surviving without server.

3 Then through what will you communicate with other people taking into consideration E Mailing is pretty slow i mean replying is pretty slow

4 When you create your clan yourself you are the leader. If you do not have leader ship skills the clan dies soon unless someone skilled goes in command.

5 Taking care of administrative problems like in forums is also a huge part

6 As i said web site IS OPTIONAL

7 When you just started a clan your clan wont be instantly good. So ppl wont know of it unless you advertise a bit

8 Yet a clan is pretty boring without clan matches

Grega
11-01-2006, 06:47 PM
7 When you just started a clan your clan wont be instantly good. So ppl wont know of it unless you advertise a bit
You see thats where playing in public servers with your tags on is. If you get a rep in the public servers people will get interested. No other advertising needed.

Also when just starting you should also look for other clans. Once you win a fwe CWs people will chalange you.

But yea as Zeo said. the clan scene in ESF is dead and yet clans survive. I kinda hope 1.3 brightens up things. Cause barely anyone plays 1.2.3 and is still in a clan.

Xerimethius
11-01-2006, 06:54 PM
2) If your members play the game, whether or not you have a server shouldn't matter unless they won't play without one.
3) You can speak on forums, or ingame. Unless all of your players are from different countries, you don't need to have 3 different ways to speak to someone. Most Americans use Aim, but even then I rarely speak to my other clan mates unless I'm ingame or in the forums.
4) Unless you create a democracy, in which case the majority rules.
5) If you or someone you know can make a forum, awesome. After the forum is created, you don't to know anything other than how to post or move topics.
6) If its optional, it isn't necessary. You don't need a website if you have a forum.
7) ZR was good within 5 minutes of its creation. If you know good players who'd be willing to join your clan, you're set. It's better to make it an invite-only clan anyway.
8) Only if the your clanmates are boring.

1.3 might bring back a lot of people, if only out of curiousity. I have doubts as to whether or not they'll stick around, but a lot of people should be coming back.

Fire Phoenix
11-03-2006, 06:53 AM
2 Most clans without server die very soon. Very little are surviving without server.

Very little clans survive period. It doesn't matter whether or not they have a server. Not many people play esf, why there are clans in the first place are beyond me.

3 Then through what will you communicate with other people taking into consideration E Mailing is pretty slow i mean replying is pretty slow.

And posting on a forum is faster than e-mail? Most Americans use AIM (some msn) most Europeans use MSN. I've never known anyone who uses yahoo or xfire for messaging reasons.

4 When you create your clan yourself you are the leader. If you do not have leader ship skills the clan dies soon unless someone skilled goes in command.

It doesn't take much to be like everyone else in the clan, only difference is, is you started it

5 Taking care of administrative problems like in forums is also a huge part

How is it a huge part? I fail to understand why you need to administrate a clan, your clan shouldn't need it anyway, you should all be mature enough to take care of yourselves, you're not their mother.

6 As i said web site IS OPTIONAL

7 When you just started a clan your clan wont be instantly good. So ppl wont know of it unless you advertise a bit

Yes you will be if you have good players in it. And advertising will make a big difference? "HEY EVERYONE! GOKUSSJ5 IS RECRUITING FOR GOOD MEMBERS, WE'RE REALLY GOOD! JOIN US" isn't going to fix things, anyone can say "we're good" you don't advertise that you're good, you show them.

8 Yet a clan is pretty boring without clan matches

Name 1 clan match that has gone on in the past month...or to go a little farther in the past 6 months


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Rayos
11-04-2006, 09:16 PM
Clans still be going on around now...hey i have destroyed numberous clans in my time :)

That is fighting against or joining them

Grega
11-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Name 1 clan match that has gone on in the past month...or to go a little farther in the past 6 months

S2k VS InstSaiyans

We owned them XD But that was 2 months back ^^

Arsenovicius
11-05-2006, 03:49 PM
Actualy grega o_o
U didn't owned us o_o
Damn it.. i was the freaking only one playing in that cw :yes:
Picture ! http://www.union5studios.com/kai/Files/isvss2k.JPG
Eh just if there was amon and Ringrei there :p

Sub
11-05-2006, 03:52 PM
Name 1 clan match that has gone on in the past month...or to go a little farther in the past 6 months

-]Z|R[- is still alive

-)Z(- lasted for a year

Fire Phoenix
11-05-2006, 07:01 PM
-]Z|R[- is still alive

-)Z(- lasted for a year

I never said anything about Z

I said name a clan that had a clan match, not a clan that lasted for a year.

Sub
11-05-2006, 07:43 PM
Ah, I missread it. I can't think of one to be honest, but I'm not in a clan in ESF because of the game or clan matches, I'm in one because the people in the clan are awesome and the clan provides us with our own mini forum to hang out on.

nge
11-06-2006, 02:53 AM
And we play eachother and other skilled players, because those are pretty much the only people worth playing these days.

nsw316
11-08-2006, 06:25 PM
Clan matches are fun. Playing skilled players is fun, also.

Fire Phoenix
11-08-2006, 11:25 PM
Clan matches are fun. Playing skilled players is fun, also.

Never said it wasn't.

Grega
11-08-2006, 11:29 PM
And i named you a clan match ^^

Anything else?

.Guzzie.
11-09-2006, 09:12 AM
Aww!!! You guys are soo lucky!! You have to invite me to spectate one of your matches!! God it sucks here in Australia.Anything outside it gives you a 200+ Ping. *Cries*!!!

-GuZzie

Xerimethius
11-09-2006, 12:11 PM
And i named you a clan match ^^

Anything else?

Name a match in the last 6 months where 2 power clans went head to head.

There aren't any power clans left, so don't bother. Point is, the clan scene is pretty much dead. We're in clans for the sake of being in one. ESF is a giant chatroom now.

Fire Phoenix
11-09-2006, 08:30 PM
Name a match in the last 6 months where 2 power clans went head to head.

There aren't any power clans left, so don't bother. Point is, the clan scene is pretty much dead. We're in clans for the sake of being in one. ESF is a giant chatroom now.

Listen to the man he speaks the truth.

~`Orochi`~
12-03-2006, 09:55 PM
Name a match in the last 6 months where 2 power clans went head to head.

There aren't any power clans left, so don't bother. Point is, the clan scene is pretty much dead. We're in clans for the sake of being in one. ESF is a giant chatroom now.

As sad as it is Zeonix is right all the best players/clansmen/ect...rarely play anymore, and when they do come into servers its more to chat and shoot the sh*t then anything...face it guys esfplayers are a dieing breed. if/when 1.3 comes out i hope all that changes for the better.

.Guzzie.
12-11-2006, 11:02 AM
1.3 is going to change the world of ESF. It's going to become far more popular, and if the game meets the players expectations we're going to be packed ;)

-GuZzie

Xerimethius
12-12-2006, 12:00 PM
1.3 is going to attract old players and new players alike, and then it will lose it's "newness factor" and charm and end up like 1.2.

You have no idea how much I want to be wrong.