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3xR
07-05-2006, 04:33 AM
You must refer to: http://forum.esforces.com/showthread.php?p=760884

As you can see, we are geting big hits.. funny though.

People complain about being slow hacked, but the real reasion is... : tons of reasons. You don't listen, plain and simple. Otherwise it wouldn't of happen to you. And the thing about 'HLDS server exploit' i'd like anyone to attempt to do so... so I can laugh my ass off.

We are although looking for good ESF players, not just related to EVM. We have a few skilled players, but most prefer EVM. If you are truley interested, please follow the rules on the server and all ingame alerts(which half the people don't, which is why they get slow hacked... I find banning boring, all that does is get them out of your server, and when you remove the bans, they come and do it again, slowhacking at least they may learn...).

Pain
07-05-2006, 04:43 AM
There really is no reason to slow hack. If someone isn't listening you kick them out of your server. Slow hacking is used a majority of the time by admins who can't keep up with the other players in the server, and turn to abuse in order to get an advantage. It's usually followed by a flurry of "lol u noob y u suk so much loollol".

Either way, moved to the clan section.

MC
07-05-2006, 04:44 AM
You must refer to: http://forum.esforces.com/showthread.php?p=760884

As you can see, we are geting big hits.. funny though.

People complain about being slow hacked, but the real reasion is... : tons of reasons. You don't listen, plain and simple. Otherwise it wouldn't of happen to you. And the thing about 'HLDS server exploit' i'd like anyone to attempt to do so... so I can laugh my ass off.

We are although looking for good ESF players, not just related to EVM. We have a few skilled players, but most prefer EVM. If you are truley interested, please follow the rules on the server and all ingame alerts(which half the people don't, which is why they get slow hacked... I find banning boring, all that does is get them out of your server, and when you remove the bans, they come and do it again, slowhacking at least they may learn...).
There's no need to create a thread for this. There is no reason for you to slow hack players just because they don't listen, there is a feature I'm sure you're aware of in Half-Life which allows you to ban players. You do know that you hacking someone else's computer is considered illegal right?

http://esforces.com/remote_aup.php

3xR
07-05-2006, 04:45 AM
Nop, we've got alot of people who come in their... and most of the uR members are acting normal, we start raising our skills up... and a player is all like "****in noobs I can whoop ur ass on CS and HI."

^ Happen just today...

And I see that most people from the ESF forums are noobs..

You do know that you hacking someone else's computer is considered illegal to right?
If you know what hacking is, then please, get lost because that is not. No one is talking about 'pc hacking' more of the thought of in-game related stuff, it has nothing to do with comming on this forum other than my clan+post.

Some of your third warnings crack me up..

Such as
-Possible Termination of Internet Connection by ISP

Would you like me to post de_dust/de_dust2 in the maps section for ESF?

Refer to users by name. Anymore of this "noob" namecalling will result in problems. I hope, for your sake, that I don't have to tell you again. - Pain

MC
07-05-2006, 04:49 AM
Hack-ing - To use one's skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network:
You're editing another persons files on their computer, in this case the configuration file, so yes, it is still considered hacking hence illegal.

Sub
07-05-2006, 05:13 AM
Using a speed hack is a no. I don't care what rule they broke, it's a ****ty thing for you to do. Honestly, you have no right to do it. Just ban them or kick them.

Fire Phoenix
07-05-2006, 05:43 AM
Ever thought of maybe not going to that server? Just curious. Granted I'm sure you're not going to go there again. But still- just don't go.

3xR
07-05-2006, 07:39 AM
Refer to users by name. Anymore of this "noob" namecalling will result in problems. I hope, for your sake, that I don't have to tell you again. - Pain

^ Your funny, you are a noob. You must define it.

noob: (noun)- someone who is new to something or does not know how to backup stuff.


That thing about a noob and geting your internet cut off is a joke, way to damn hilarious. Thats a noob who wrote that. :scared:

MC
07-05-2006, 07:40 AM
That "noob" happens to have the ability to ban you mainly due to the fact that "noob" is an administrator on these boards.

Shiyojin Rommyu
07-05-2006, 07:48 AM
I can already tell you're not going to be enjoying your stay on our Forums, kiddo.

Hacking someone just to get the upper hand on them - even if you're a server admin - is something only a weakling would do. If you can't handle them, don't host the server. Easy as that. But apparently you have no morals.

MF29
07-05-2006, 07:54 AM
Refer to users by name. Anymore of this "noob" namecalling will result in problems. I hope, for your sake, that I don't have to tell you again. - Pain

^ Your funny, you are a noob. You must define it.

noob: (noun)- someone who is new to something or does not know how to backup stuff.


That thing about a noob and geting your internet cut off is a joke, way to damn hilarious. Thats a noob who wrote that. :scared:

I can see this thread getting closed, like GameStop at 11:00 PM

|Overlord|
07-05-2006, 09:02 AM
And I see that most people from the ESF forums are noobs..
Atleast we don't hack people's configs like you do, I bet you do it randomly for other reasons aswell. As already stated, your hacking has the abillity to gain an advantage over the other player, which is just lame and pathectic. I suggest you practice, just because someone is better then you at the game doesn't just come to the point where you go "Right, i'm going to slow hack you".

People who use hacks, no matter in which form and in what games deserve no respect, just a /+b followed by a lol.

Shiyojin Rommyu
07-05-2006, 09:56 AM
Then again, I guess someone who plays EVM as religiously as him, even devoting a whole CLAN to EVM play, shouldn't be expected to have any sense of fair play.

Chang Wufei
07-05-2006, 11:39 AM
Whatever, uR clan is a joke anyways. Its by far the worst clan in ESF, and the fact that it tries to be a pioneer in certain aspects of ESF like bringing CS maps to ESF, and making stupid plugins is a joke.

ESF isnt about who has the most custom and newest plugins or who brings the most stuff into the game. Its about the community of people who play. If your constantly "slow hacking" everyones configs, because they attack you when you wanna be left alone. Then your being a poor member of the community, which will in turn get your clan nowhere in this community.

Your already frowned upon by the majority of pro's, and average players because your horrible at the game, slow hack anyones configs who argues with you in your server, and your clan is full of overall *******s.

You should really quit while your ahead, because this whole arguement is just making your "noob" clan (and yes it is a noob clan, whether you like to accept it or not) seem even worse. So just stop while your ahead and leave.

Comming into the forums trying to explain your reasons for slowhacking everyone who joins your server and has a disagreement with you isnt helping your cause. Especially when your acting as arrogant as you are right now.

Pain
07-05-2006, 12:45 PM
Refer to users by name. Anymore of this "noob" namecalling will result in problems. I hope, for your sake, that I don't have to tell you again. - Pain

^ Your funny, you are a noob. You must define it.

noob: (noun)- someone who is new to something or does not know how to backup stuff.


That thing about a noob and geting your internet cut off is a joke, way to damn hilarious. Thats a noob who wrote that. :scared:
I can assure you that the only noob around here is you. Flaming me of all people is probably not a good idea, as mentioned, I can ban you.

But I'll be nice. Disregarding my friendly warning only serves to net you a real one. Hopefully that will be enough to set you straight. If you'd like to try for two, it can be arranged.

Fire Phoenix
07-05-2006, 04:07 PM
Whoa, someone has the nerves to call Pain (the sexiest piece of ass on earth) a noob? Wow, you must be cruisin' for a bruisin' then. o.O

And if "most of the people on these forums" were "noobs" as you so elequently put it: then you wouldn't need to hack peoples config files to gain the upper hand now would you?

Yeah, don't be calling the kettle black.:

Man the urge to flame this guy and risk getting the inevitable warning would be so worth it right now. So worth it indeed.

Drek
07-05-2006, 09:18 PM
I don't agree with his slow hacking, but it is not even close to hacking. Hacking is something totally different. It's called slow hacking, but it is merely just an amx command. If it was really hacking, the makers of AMX would be in pretty deep you know what right now. It is wrong to do so, and was actually meant to help new users with their configurations, but instead you used it to mess up their configurations. Not good

3xR
07-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Clear fact is, you want to call our clan noobs, but when the **** comes down... of our skills you die. Most of you will take this into games, which is the wrong way.

> Coding Skills - PHP...ect most languages of the web. (Most of my members.)

We'd like to help in the development of ESF. Since the release of 1.3 is taking so long, for me it would be easy to finish what you have started and implant it, then it would be all the models/gfx/sprites/maps and so on.

About the 'hacking' its not even close as someone else said. :talk: That is too funny to even get a go with. You should go into a dictionary and look up the word hacking. o_o

DragonDude
07-05-2006, 09:52 PM
You come here insulting the entire forum, then say you want to help with development? Man, you're one confused fellow. Your bright and shining little attitude wouldn't last an instant in a team environment outside of your clan lackeys.

And you know PHP...? PHP is a serverside scripting language. I'm not even going to comment further on how hillarious that subtle little boast was. xD

MC
07-05-2006, 10:03 PM
About the 'hacking' its not even close as someone else said. :talk: That is too funny to even get a go with. You should go into a dictionary and look up the word hacking. o_o

I did a few posts ago: http://forum.esforces.com/showpost.php?p=760908&postcount=5

You came in here making it seem slow hacking those who irritate you is justified when really it has frowned upon by a majority of the Valve community, let alone finding that banning someone is "boring" has no relevance to you hacking someone's configurations. Banning was not made to be boring or fun, it was made so that if someone is causing problems on your server, you can ban that perpetrator from ever joining the server again.

If you don't think slow hacking is actual hacking, then it would be considered cheating which can have you receive a nice VAC ban.

You could've avoided the forum members from flaming you but unfortunately you didn't.

You don't like being beaten by another player? Too bad, you're not invicible. Don't like how someone claims they are better? Then you shouldn't make such claims yourself. So what if you know how to code in PHP? How does that make you better than anyone else?

Drek
07-05-2006, 10:32 PM
You can't receive a VAC ban from using amx mod, in fact most servers use AMX. In the old Counter-Strike 1.5 days, servers which can exec client would show a message in console while joining that admins may run commands on their clients. It may still show, but Steam doesnt show console while you're joining now. Slow hacking is not considered to be hacking, or cheating. It is considered "admin abuse."

Kama
07-05-2006, 11:19 PM
Erm... "3xR"... are you sure you're allowed to be surfing the net without supervision? I havn't heard someone use the word noob so many times since I was in elementary school. Like, I know you think it's insulting and all, but it just makes you look like an idiot.

Have some respect for your fellow players, anyone who uses any admin mod to grief another player isn't even worth calling a gamer.

Kaination
07-05-2006, 11:41 PM
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/beatkid4.jpg

I really don't see the point of slow hacking. I relaly don't care if it's hacking or not. The fact that you used an AMX command to slow someone down to be able to beat them proves that you aren't a gamer.

That's like buying a game and putting in every single cheat possible, from god mode to infinite ammo, to 1 hit kill, and the trying to say you're the best person at that game cause you never once got hit.

Fire Phoenix
07-06-2006, 04:25 AM
Wow....just...wow.

Hey, if you can create 1.3 in less time than the team. Go for it.

Oh yeah, and quick question.

Clear fact is, you want to call our clan noobs, but when the **** comes down... of our skills you die.

If you have these "skills" why do you need to "slow hack" people to win?

3xR
07-06-2006, 04:49 AM
Who said **** about 'skills' related to 'slow hacking.'

If your intention is to cheat/dis-respect = your ass gets slowhacked.

Any simplier? No.

I could make 1.3 if I had the models and so on(existing stuff) ... but i'd see why people don't waste their time. The **** about being a ****in kid is really funny. Attempting to use an age marker as being bigger and better isn't anything in life. Nor does it count here because I am probally older than half of you, sure I LIVE IN A BASEMENT, k. I'm just saying what half of you low-lifes will come up with of course its all a joke.

Sub
07-06-2006, 05:16 AM
3xR, I'm sure your intentions are good, but slow hacking is frowned upon by the community. You're going to get these kind of negative responses if you openly admit and defend yourself for doing it. I'm sorry man, that's just the way it is.

MF29
07-06-2006, 05:23 AM
To make the situation fair, If 3xR makes a server, he has the right to do anything he wants on it, im not taking anyone's side, if you don't like the server or you don't follow rules, leave the server, If you get slow-hacked, report him if you want.

Sub
07-06-2006, 05:25 AM
He does not have the right to change anything on my computer, at all. I don't care if he owns the server. I own a server myself and I don't feel like I have the right to change anything on anyones computer, even if it is a little value on someones config.

MF29
07-06-2006, 05:27 AM
Well if slow-hacking messes up your computer then that's a different story

Rayne
07-06-2006, 05:34 AM
You should leave before you are banned. No one will waste their time hacking you... you will just be banned and then we will forget about you. About your clan, youve earned it a reputation that neither I nor many other players will ever forget or forgive. I can assure you the team does not need your PHP or HTML coding skills and to even ask them to give you their work is absurd. Oh and your slow-hacking means absolutely nothing to me, even though you obviosly think that you are high enough to touch another players configurations, your just an abusive admin that hides in his EVM server where you can slow-hack, not to mention change your own PL upon entering a game as you and you clan members do, because none of your clans members have any skill above that of any average player that plays EVM. I back up all of my configs, which means that all your slow hacking is nothing more than a simple copy and paste to me. If you do happen to see me in your server again I will be spamming like hell.

Gon
07-06-2006, 09:34 AM
Can I join the slow-hacking uR clan?

Well, actually how many people are in the clan? lol..

SA_Gohan
07-06-2006, 08:25 PM
Lol. All I've noticed is that when someone joins your server and starts kicking your arse without them saying anything you call them noobs and lamers, then screw up their configs because you can't beat them. Sounds like a healthy mixture of cheating and cowardice to me ^^
I feel sorry for honest player's who accidentally log into your server expecting a fair and fun fight.
Usually if you have the arrogance to shout out your great skill and talent to the world, your below average in many ways. I barely play ESF and the few times every other month I do I'm pretty bad at it. If I can beat you then you guys really have a problem. Perhaps you and your clan should think about training on other servers like Digi where you can see what really talented player's are like, and try to emulate them.

DragonDude
07-07-2006, 04:36 AM
I could make 1.3 if I had the models and so on(existing stuff) ... Oh, really? You're going to do that in PHP? I could paint the Mona Lisa while blindfolded, if... uh... I had paint. Yeah, that's it.

Run along now and get started.

MF29
07-07-2006, 07:52 AM
We'd like to help in the development of ESF. Since the release of 1.3 is taking so long, for me it would be easy to finish what you have started

Lets see how long it takes....

|Overlord|
07-08-2006, 03:43 AM
I could make 1.3 if I had the models and so on(existing stuff) ...
Yeah, and modify it to your liking so you can make the game 10x worse or make it very simlar to EVM............

EVM is for 1 crap and 2 unbalanced, so it's not hard to see where I am comnig from. Spam as many teleports, beams and expldoe your vegeta/cell as much as you like in evm, you'll never be good at normal esf ethier if your'e gonig to slow hack people. You even come here and try to defend your wrong doing, sayying it actualyl has meaning to be done. Isn't it jsut more simple to kick and ban the people rather then slowhack them? that way your rid of them and hardly anyone can use these "cheats" or "hacks" you speak of in your earlier posts. If someone breaks a rule on your server, kick/ban them, simple as that and you don't here another word from them unless they have multiple steam accounts.

Youv'e already gone and given yourself and your clan the worst possible image in this whole community. Oh, wait a miniute you play EVM, so I assume you also given yourself a bad name to their community and player base aswell, so ethier way it's your loss =/.

3xR
07-08-2006, 04:44 AM
I never said EVM is balanced, but it is far ahead of what ESF really has to offer... thats why most people like it and I host a server for it. Just because 'some people' like.

Sure, I know more than PHP, I only listed web languages. Computer languages that I am very familiar with are advanced C/C++. I started with learning small languages like VB and other stuff. I do not know much of VB.NET since I moved on after I found PHP/C were related in a way. Some other languages I am begining to 'use,' not that I do not already know them, is assembly.

I feel a sense of a flame from you overlord, such as you think your better. All I have to say to everyone, is hacking is different from changing someones config based on the fact they use it in the game, and its not related to the actual computer nor thing, just a small configuration, which 'can' be fixed. I got really tired of kicking/banning people in the olden days, I am a member of the myg0t(long time ago) and we found that its to much of a 'childish' thing to do...we rather have fun with the person wanting to dis-obey stuff, so we made use of it in different ways. That simple. As Hybrid already said, can't follow the rules, don't play on the server. And don't think about comming in their like your some ESF pro... we get that alot. Just because we use 'advanced melee' which is implanted in the game. Its sad that leagues don't allow it from what I am learning. Plain stupid, its a game, its in the game, so is my stuff... get over it.

|Overlord|
07-08-2006, 05:43 AM
I feel a sense of a flame from you overlord
And I see that most people from the ESF forums are noobs..
I feel flamed by you with that comment. My above post is not a flame, simple logic when you compare it to that from one of your previous posts. You feel that you have been flamed and expect justice should be done for you but in the first place you come here and call us n00bs......... You can expect users to not have such great consideration or opinion on you or your clan, considering what happens in your server as stated in another thread and given your actions on the forums, which is why I quoted that from one of your earlier posts.
you think your better
I can't see how I have called you a name of any sought. Never have I once stated that I said I was "better" then you, you have made that assumption and came to that conclusion for yourself.

Shiyojin Rommyu
07-08-2006, 09:50 AM
...is hacking is different from changing someones config based on the fact they use it in the game, and its not related to the actual computer nor thing, just a small configuration...

If it's not 'hacking' per se, then why did you yourself call it 'slow hacking'?

Get your story straight, kthx.

MC
07-08-2006, 10:45 AM
All I have to say to everyone, is hacking is different from changing someones config based on the fact they use it in the game, and its not related to the actual computer nor thing, just a small configuration, which 'can' be fixed. I got really tired of kicking/banning people in the olden days, I am a member of the myg0t(long time ago) and we found that its to much of a 'childish' thing to do...we rather have fun with the person wanting to dis-obey stuff, so we made use of it in different ways. That simple. As Hybrid already said, can't follow the rules, don't play on the server. And don't think about comming in their like your some ESF pro... we get that alot. Just because we use 'advanced melee' which is implanted in the game. Its sad that leagues don't allow it from what I am learning. Plain stupid, its a game, its in the game, so is my stuff... get over it.
You make no sense whatsoever... Let's break this down:

I am a member of the myg0t(long time ago)
That explains a lot, saves us the trouble of trying to figure you out.

Plain stupid, its a game, its in the game, so is my stuff... get over it.
Then why do you bother to change someones configuration file? It's just a game.

hacking is different from changing someones config based on the fact they use it in the game, and its not related to the actual computer nor thing, just a small configuration which 'can' be fixed.
What are you talking about? If the game configuration is part of the game then why do you even change it? For one, the configuration file is located on your computer, and you go and change all of their key maps through the game which then changes the one in the configuration file on the computer.

Let's define hacking, shall we?


To write or refine computer programs skillfully.
To use one's skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network.



In computer programming, a hacker is a programmer who hacks or reaches a goal by employing a series of modifications to exploit or extend existing code or resources. For some, hacker has a negative connotation and refers to a person who "hacks" or uses kludges to accomplish programming tasks that are ugly, inelegant, and inefficient. This negative form of the noun "hack" is even used among users of the positive sense of "hacker".


In computer security, hacker refers to a type of computer hacker who is involved in programming and computer insecurity and is able to exploit systems or gain unauthorized access through skills, tactics and detailed knowledge.

To alter (a computer program).
To gain access to (a computer file or network) illegally or without authorization.



To use a computer or other technological device or system in order to gain unauthorized access to data held by another person or organization.


A hack is a program that alters a games performance, usually enhancing the abilities of the player, or giving an unfair edge over others that was not intended in the game. There are thousands of ways they are made and loaded into the game, but we won't go into too great of detail about how hackers make their hacks.


Hacking means illegally accessing other people's computer systems for destroying, disrupting or carrying out illegal activities on the network or computer systems.

I don't know... by reading through all of that, I think it's saying that hacking has to do with illegally accessing someone's computer... I don't know, altering someones configuration file without them knowing doesn't sound like hacking to me... so what do you call it?











Nahhh, it's still hacking and I can post more definitions if you're still confused.

MF29
07-08-2006, 03:17 PM
You make no sense whatsoever... Let's break this down:


That explains a lot, saves us the trouble of trying to figure you out.


Then why do you bother to change someones configuration file? It's just a game.


What are you talking about? If the game configuration is part of the game then why do you even change it? For one, the configuration file is located on your computer, and you go and change all of their key maps through the game which then changes the one in the configuration file on the computer.

Let's define hacking, shall we?









I don't know... by reading through all of that, I think it's saying that hacking has to do with illegally accessing someone's computer... I don't know, altering someones configuration file without them knowing doesn't sound like hacking to me... so what do you call it?











Nahhh, it's still hacking and I can post more definitions if you're still confused.

Your one of the most Intellegent people in this forum, Seriously, MC i bow down to you.

Chang Wufei
07-09-2006, 05:22 AM
nah, he just owned him thats all..Nicley done MC

Rayos
07-09-2006, 07:01 PM
If you want...you can call me a noob. Come face me in esf, i say hmm


How many are in your clan? if it is under 10...ill do a 1vs your clan We can even make it a pay per view...see how you do? And i am being in all seriousness i want to see this clan of "ur"s

~`Orochi`~
07-09-2006, 08:30 PM
Just the fact that there an EVM based clan tells you everything u would need to know about them...

Rayos
07-10-2006, 02:51 AM
LOL all they are are spammers if they get into trouble.

They say they are holding back but then won't fight since they are on their laptop...


Plus a better one.


"I am really busy at the moment" quoted...

5 minutes prior

"I'm sitting here watching dave chapelle" quoted..



I see that doing more than 1 thing at the same time...is cause for concern




BTW EVERYONE...EVERYONE ...I am a noob.....apparently my 6 years of playing this game mean nothing to being a noob...

Growler
07-10-2006, 03:28 AM
This thread sucks and is now about "LoL".

No but seriously... this kid reminds me of this kid that IMed me the other day trying to recruit me into his clan (idk if it was this same kid.. or a recruiter of uR) and he tried broadening my horizons to the world of hacking... No thanks.

blackout
07-10-2006, 04:39 AM
I must say, this is highly entertaining. You even wanted me to merge my clan with yours at one point. You also asked me why respect for my clan matters to me, well this is the reason why. I even warned you that your "hacking" skills will infuriate the ESF community, so why bother?

Rayos
07-10-2006, 07:46 AM
apparently using krillin against them ....angers them :-\ shucks

blackout
07-10-2006, 10:33 PM
LOL. Saru, you have your own unique way of humiliating people. Teach us the way of the Sensei.

nge
07-12-2006, 07:17 AM
lol at the myg0t comment. Everyone and their mother was or could have been a member of myg0t.

Listen, it's just a little kid hiding behind the internet to feel good about himself. Here he can say and do what he wants with little consequence because Billy took his lunch money again and Jill called him an ugly-head.

Don't buy into this crap. He doesn't even believe himself, fully. No one could be so stupid as to claiming their "skill" at something out of a game could relate to their actual ability in the game. That's about as intelligent as saying "well, I bake a damn nice marble cake, so I think the millitary needs my expert commanding prowess."

You've all seen it. The little boy hosting a server on the 1337machine alienware his mommy got him for his birthday because the one he got 3 months ago is too slow, and he's upset because he's not getting what he wants in-game. While most server admins under this mindset are too dumb do figure out anything but the "server shutting down" command, he feels he has the right to do what he wants because he can.

Let him continue to deny the truth in favor of his fantasy world.

I wouldn't be surprised if something nasty happened to his server someday.

3xR
07-20-2006, 01:33 PM
Are you wannabes done?

Flame all you want, its what uR is about. Rage.

I feel your hate, and I love it. All of it.

Shiyojin Rommyu
07-20-2006, 01:43 PM
lol, if I were in your position, I'd be saying the same thing.

MC
07-20-2006, 01:48 PM
Are you wannabes done?

Flame all you want, its what uR is about. Rage.

I feel your hate, and I love it. All of it.
You must be one disturbingly sadistic person to find pleasure in making people angry.

Sub
07-20-2006, 02:39 PM
And to do behind the safety of your computer, too.

Pain
07-20-2006, 02:42 PM
I guess he wasn't original enough to come up with something that hasn't already been done, *cough myg0twannabe cough*.

In any case, you should change your clan slogan to pity, because It's probably the only emotion you invoke in others. Sarutobi is proof enough that nobody is getting raged, rather just laughing at you.

And since this thread has, by your own admittance, been turned into a "lewl omg i r troll k flame me tnx", it dies now.

- Closed.