View Full Version : DBZ Re-dub: Saiyan+Namek Sagas, Movies 1, 2, 3 + more!
Ravendust
12-04-2004, 11:47 PM
Good news for dub fans, FUNimation are redoing everything done (read: ruined) by Pioneer and The Ocean Group, and are not only redubbing the Saiyan and Namek sagas, but the first three movies too. This will mean the same voice actors will be constant through the entirety of DBZ. On top of that, they're adding all the cut episodes, bringing the total up to 291 episodes, 15 more than the current number, the same number as the original Japanese version.
To top it off, Movies 10, 11 and 12 have been confirmed, with 10 being released in March 2005. I imagine 13 will shortly follow, the last DB/Z/GT thing to be dubbed.
More material + less editing + better voices = woo.
Source: http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/6049.html and the DBGT TV Special's DVD Extras.
Synth
12-04-2004, 11:50 PM
Sounds like they've been busy at Funimation, I just hope they do the Namek Saga justice this time.
Skiwan
12-04-2004, 11:50 PM
what a great way for funimation to make more money
Ravendust
12-04-2004, 11:55 PM
I'll be glad to see the back of all those horrible inconsistencies that Pioneer seemed to breed, like Tien's 'regeneration' and Gohan using KHH's against Vegeta before learning the move.
Aurek
12-04-2004, 11:57 PM
what a great way for funimation to make more money
Yes, while they please existing fans who want an english version more ture to the origional and newer fans like myself who have yet to purchase any DVD's. I dont see the problem. It appears to me the origional raping of DBZ was mainly due to Funimation distributor discating terms to them anyway. I think you are being a tad cynical.
Xerimethius
12-04-2004, 11:59 PM
Damn...i liked vegeta's voice from the saiyan saga.
Hitokiri
12-05-2004, 12:12 AM
Yeah, he actually sounded like a smarmy little gremlin he is.
Skiwan
12-05-2004, 12:23 AM
Yes, while they please existing fans who want an english version more ture to the origional and newer fans like myself who have yet to purchase any DVD's. I dont see the problem. It appears to me the origional raping of DBZ was mainly due to Funimation distributor discating terms to them anyway. I think you are being a tad cynical.
funimation = big corperate identity, you know why they're doing this right? if there was no money in it they wouldnt be doing it, i dont care what you think but thats the blatent truth, as they conditioned DBZ and changed the target age audience anyway. There are things funimation added in places that was completely irrelevant, take for instance when super buu had just absorbed vegetto, in the funi version he goes to a cake shop/store cuz he's hungry ;o, in the japanese version he went and destroyed an entire city using eyebeams and other ki attacks, flying through the buildings and such... that wasnt even in the original manga anyway when supper buu absorbed vegetto, super buu didnt even move while goku and vegeta were messing around inside him, and there wasnt any of that crap about exploring his body with the green things jumping at them.... They add those stupid sequences of flashbacks all the time, when u blatently know what happened... I garentee they wont be completely true to the original, i'd still watch the japanese version with subs anyday. On that note, you are better off with the manga.
Sorry but funimation are the worst thing to do with dbz, they ruined the whole anime imo, thats why i prefer the manga.
FreeDoM
12-05-2004, 12:56 AM
The Ocean group's work was the best! Far better than Funimation's. The only reason i'd buy this is for the japanese audio:)
SailorAlea
12-05-2004, 02:56 AM
I'll be glad to see the back of all those horrible inconsistencies that Pioneer seemed to breed, like Tien's 'regeneration' and Gohan using KHH's against Vegeta before learning the move.
He actually did use Kamehameha.
He makes the hand gesture for Masenko, and the beam is yellow, but even in the Japanese version he yells "Kame-hame-ha!"
Toei made the mistake, Pioneer/Ocean just dubbed the mistake as it was in the anime they saw.
If you don't believe me, I can give you an AVI clip of when he uses it against Vegeta, I ripped it awhile ago.
I might buy this if they don't have these censors.
Chrono5788
12-06-2004, 01:46 AM
What about the people that thought FUNimation ruined the dubs?
[F.co]Kirby
12-06-2004, 01:58 AM
all companies ruin dub's except for the ones that aren't cencored/have the actuall dialog then its ok but japanese version + subs = best!
Jesus
12-06-2004, 02:01 AM
most subtitled japanese stuff we get here arent official, they are subbed by fans, which means its open to interpretation. i watched the anime of berserk, and there were a few inconsistancy's where two different fans subbed different eppisodes....
Engar
12-06-2004, 02:26 AM
There were a couple of things in the Saiyan Saga I would have liked to keep - apparantly when Choutzu died in the original version Tien went through a flashback scene were he thought about how he had known Choutzu all his life. It clears up why Tien goes all out and kills himself in revenge; Choutzu has been the only kind of constant he's had throughout his life (instead of the American version which was basically 'Cause he was a dumbass').
Considering that Choutzu and Tien get almost no air time through the remainder of the series this is crucial, especially for fans who never watched Dragonball. It lets you see who Tien was and who Choutzu was - the only true merits DBZ has under all the flashy lights are the layers upon layers of dense relationships the characters share - and as a concequence they cut it out completely.
But I doubt they'll include it this time.
Ravendust
12-06-2004, 03:20 PM
But I doubt they'll include it this time.
Well I think they will include scenes like that for three reasons:
1.) The new Saiyan and Namek Saga DVD's are called 'Ultimate Uncut Edition'.
2.) FUNimation said they're cutting NOTHING from these, hence the name.
3.) They're including 15 episodes, or 300+ minutes, worth of extra footage unseen by dub fans, no doubt this will be in there as part of that.
SaiyanPrideXIX
12-06-2004, 04:48 PM
AWESOME!! See, I saw the Buu saga first...people can complain all they want, I think it was pretty good for a dub. The only thing missing of note is Buu taking a crap and I really don't give enough of a damn about that to consider it "ruined."
Plus as I've stated before I really like the Buu saga voices and animation.
Also...for me who has yet to see most of those old eps...this is a real treat!
The Ocean group's work was the best! Far better than Funimation's. The only reason i'd buy this is for the japanese audio:)
I second that, ocean dub was way better then, funimation. :)
SaiyanPrideXIX
12-08-2004, 12:22 AM
Why? Because they kept all of the weak japanese dialogue?
)V(-=Vaelaar=-
12-08-2004, 12:34 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that Goku sounds like a prepubescent girl in the Japanese voice acting?
I much prefer the voice acting of the American dubs. I don't know whether it's Ocean or Funimation, but I believe it's the latter.
Ravendust
12-08-2004, 12:40 AM
I think he WAS voiced by a prepubescent girl in the Japanese voice acting, Gohan and Goten too.
I prefer the dubs too, the Japanese seems to have two styles of voices, high pitch for the innocent characters and low pitch for Piccolo and Vegeta. The dubbed voices convey character a heck of a lot better, to a western audience anyway.
You never know, there could be japanese DBZ forums discussing whether they prefer the original or the subbed dub :p
SaiyanPrideXIX
12-08-2004, 12:51 AM
Well, I agree with the last two posts. I just like the voices a lot more. To me it's just silly to have a hero who can detonate a planet and be exploding with power...sound like the lady who picks through our garbage on her bike every week.
Hibiki
12-08-2004, 02:28 AM
lame
it was awseome with all the
"oh i saw his parachute hes ok!"
"Its a good thing this city was evacuated in time (despite the fact that there were people in the last scene..)"
"ill send you to another dimention!"
RavenTrunks
12-08-2004, 03:51 AM
lame
it was awseome with all the
"oh i saw his parachute hes ok!"
"Its a good thing this city was evacuated in time (despite the fact that there were people in the last scene..)"
"ill send you to another dimention!"
you forgot "you... almost peirced my armor.......!!!" (Close enough! *falls over*)
what were they thinking when they did this...
Hibiki
12-08-2004, 04:05 AM
"UNGGH YES YES YES I CAN DO THIISS I CAN WIN I FEEL GREAT UUNGGH YES YESS!"
Hitokiri
12-08-2004, 04:33 AM
That was really the worst Piccolo moment in the history of the series. Seriously. He reminded me of that Nutrigrain guy (go check out the video at Ebaums)
Hibiki
12-08-2004, 04:55 AM
but thats why it was so awesome because it sounded so utterly retarded!
wheres_
12-08-2004, 07:55 AM
piccolo- "go on, get moving, take cover, gokus about to release the kamehameha wave!"
The last three seconds of that incredbly repeditive piece of dialoge see that his mouth neither moves or closes.
Big VEE
12-22-2004, 03:18 AM
Damn...i liked vegeta's voice from the saiyan saga.
As do I...I must download and save those episodes on a disc or something....March 2005 till Brolly Returns...that's entirely too long!!
~But one can wait for long periods of time when that's all they have.......time
|Overlord|
12-26-2004, 08:48 AM
they already have ripped people off , the people who bought the box sets of those sags's now have to go buy the new crap , i would rather just use bit torrent to get 'em if u went to the bother of buying one of namek , saiyan sag box sets
DiebytheSword
12-26-2004, 04:03 PM
I have to agree that Ocean had the far better Vegeta voice. For that reason alone I love the Ocean dubs. Funi Vegeta sounds . . . well . . . like sayians smoke 3 packs a day by the time they are 15 (art imitating life? :F). As for the Japanese Dub, I can't stand the 40 year old woman as a 15 year old's voice shtick. Many of the Japanese voices were commanding and impressive (Buu and Cell both spring instantly to mind.) All told, I would prefer a mix of some of Ocean's and Funi's talent, with the script barely altered and the film uncut.
SaiyanPrideXIX
12-26-2004, 05:50 PM
Man. I loved the Funi Vegeta...especially the Majin Monologues. I have them all on my computer. :0)
SSJ Shin Carl
12-26-2004, 06:08 PM
I like the english goku's voice I just hate his fighting grunts, and his screams, and the way he says moves. On the other hand the Japanese Goku, I love pretty much everything from the way he talks to his screams. Goku has the best scream in anime.
Cell has the best Kamehameha in Japanese, and English, but for English movies the best Goku voice was in the World's Stronger, and the Dead zone, especially when they all did the Kamehameha (ROshi, Kuririn, and Goku) Roshi: Everyone Kamehameha!
Goku, Kuririn, and Roshi: KA ME HA ME..wait...Ha.
Throughout that whole movie though Roshi did the best kamehameha.
Goku's also said the best Kaioken in that movie =D.
Hibiki
12-31-2004, 10:32 AM
On the other hand the Japanese Goku, I love pretty much everything from the way he talks to his screams.
i think u mean
she :rolleyes:
Hitokiri
12-31-2004, 06:19 PM
o_O ... the sound of a little girl screaming never really struck me as badass, heh
SSJ Shin Carl
01-01-2005, 12:05 AM
i think u mean
she :rolleyes:
No I mean "he" as the char not "she" as the actor.
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